[Mail Call] 2017/07/07 – “Abyssal morality”

In kancolle the abyssals are just trying to prevent the evil humans from destroying their ancestral homes. They just want o be left alone! Why are the abyssals evil when the shipgirls just kill them? they are only fighting back in self-denfse…

Okay. This is a very weird way of looking at it. Not to um, criticize but have you read any of KanColle’s materials at all? I mean, Tanaka even came out and said that these are vengeful spirits that attacked humans first. They hunt human ships for fun and sport. That’s part and parcel in the light novels which are still canonical as far as I’m aware.

Secondly, in case you haven’t noticed, we use our own Abyssal designs. Hoppou show up in OCEAN because OCEAN is a fun book. Half of that book is set outside of Pacific’s universe proper and is about the shipgirls visiting locations in our “world” referring to real-world events. Heck, we even have Roar and Margaret visit from Kannnu’s universe, as you can see below.

Secondly, I find the argument that the Abyssals are just fighting back in “self-defense” pretty hilarious. I mean, Japan only invaded China in “self-defense” too. So did Germany to Poland – remember how Polish saboteurs supposedly killed some German soldiers?

Yeah, well. The Abyssals in KC canon doesn’t even have that. There is no “shipgirl/humanity attacking helpless Abyssal transport.” None. They just showed up one day and started to literally nom ships.

Sure, the Abyssals don’t seem to be doing much (because Tanaka need to spread out the events so KanColle can sell more figurines), but that’s an in-story decision made by the creative staff. They’ve chosen to freeze the storyline so that we can perpetually be on the cusp of victory/defeat, which means there’s always a reason to introduce more shipgirls.

Pacific is a little different. For starters, our Abyssal “swarm” hasn’t showed up yet at all. STEC is doing fine handling basically scouting (not even skirmishing elements) of the Abyssal fleet, but they’ve been fortifying and building up strength in anticipation for when the attack arrives.

You’d think that within 40 years someone might have thought about making diplomatic contact. Maybe try to talk to the Abyssals. Figure out why they want to do all this.

Well, consider Pacific Abyssal’s motivations.

They don’t want to rule over you. I mean, they don’t care.

They convert you into material and use you to make more of them, but given the interstellar/interdimensional nature of the Abyssal fleet, does one world really make much of a difference at all?

Even let’s say that they just want to nom you. Okay. You try to negotiate with them. How many people do you feed to the Abyssal Fleet? Ten thousand? A million? A billion?

Note that I’ve explicitly designed the Abyssals as a precise counterpart to the shipgirls. The shipgirls are paragons of morality. They represent humanity. The Abyssals have no such qualms. Morality is alien to them. Why would they honor this deal? Why don’t they just kill you?

See, therein lies the issue. We have a tendency to apply human rationality to our inhuman antagonists in an attempt to humanize them, ostensibly to create “depth.” Even STEC’s own internal understanding of the Abyssal (as well as my ability to describe them to you from the author’s perspective) basically chalks it down to “they hate us for what we are and want to destroy us and our way of life.”

That is not untrue. That’s exactly how I would explain it. But it only scratches the surface. The Abyssals exhibit certain biological behaviors (they respond to stimuli, they are drawn to concentrations of fairy energy in ways that STEC theorizes similar to animals on earth, they appear to display a moderate degree of self-preservation, etc) but any attempts to try to assign a human reason or a rationale to their action is going to be pointless at best and downright dangerous at worst.

Morality doesn’t exist for the Abyssals in Pacific. They create facsimiles of humanity to fulfill niches such as terror or demoralization. They cannot understand humanity in the same way as humanity cannot understand them.

In fact, I’ll go so far as to say that the instant a particularly intelligent Abyssal agent becomes aware or at least capable of understanding humans, that’s the instant where said agent might as well cease to be an Abyssal altogether. It would certifiably be insane if insanity exists in the Abyssal fleet’s “vocabulary.”

A reminder that mail call’s mail call ;)

Some days it’s just not feasible for me to do daily updates. School and work gets busy, and I don’t always just want to put up a random post with a chibi or sketch. It’s one thing to post pre-written or stock writing, and it’s another thing to revise and correct – both of which you know everyone hates.

See, it even says “regular” updates and not “daily” updates.

Now, where are things? As it stands, the release order is still the same.

Navy foods: This is basically done. CN first, released early August at Zero’s hometown convention.

2016: EN first. Preorders probably soon, though (as I’ve wryly commented) logistics is always a nightmare and getting things to the states isn’t easy, period. There’s an ocean between China and the US, y’know.

A reminder that Pacific (the hon-haka team) is still literally one guy handling all of our actual logistics and printing, two artists, and a ragtag bunch of friends who write. In this day and age of triple-A production values and massive investments on everything, I’m just going to say that we’re pretty damned proud that we can hold our own in this field. It’s what we’re going to keep on trying.

Believe me, we’ve looked seriously at printing options everywhere across the continental US. At the volumes of books we create per printing run (thousands) it is still far, far, far cheaper for us to print in China and ship it over to the US. The decline of American manufacturing is no joke – why would I charge you more for a shoddier product if we already have access to excellent facilities overseas (something which most English-speaking creators don’t have access to?)

Which, not to rag on this point too much, but half these guys ship their stuff over to CHYNA anyways to print. “Made in the USA” my foot. Owned by Americans, certainly, but come on, we know the pricing of this industry. You could say we were born in it. Molded by it. 😉

(By the way, don’t get the wrong impression. We aren’t all knowing and we’re more than happy to look into additional sources for printing or further collaboration. It’s just … to put it simply, digging into the print “industry” here back home shattered my idealism. No wonder we don’t have a print media “doujin” thing over here. The …. it’s just insane. Absolutely insane.)

I mean, when we print anything it’s a sleepless night for Zero. He gets the proofs. He goes over them and makes sure the colors come out right.

Silent Service: EN first (sort of). Silent Service proper actually have a lot of very short pieces set in the Pacific universe proper. Layout is going to be a pain (as usual because anything I make is like the F-35. It quickly spirals out of control in terms of the amount of text present)

Well my lunch break’s over. See ya guys around. x)

[Mail Call] 2017/07/04 – Modern Shipgirls

We get this question a lot. “Will you ever do modern shipgirls?/are modern shipgirls a thing?”

 

I’ve answered this many times. Pacific covers shipgirls inspired by WW2.

I didn’t say Pacific doesn’t have spin-offs or special projects.

This one’s actually Sima’s design, and I’ll basically be translating his words here. You might now ask. “Wait, the Type 055 JUST entered the water like, last week! How the hell do you design a shipgirl based on something that’s not even complete?”

Well, so that’s the thing. Sima already came up with a list of designs in terms of her looks. Here are his thoughts below. Note that this one I basically acted as a rubber stamp – let’s just say I’m proud of the team and I found his notes to be quite sound.

  • Chinese-esque outfit design because China, with its thousands of years of history, have traditional clothing types that are immediately discernible at a glance. It’s not a Qipao because the “buttflap” of the Qipao will seriously get in the way of her rigging.
  • Color design is based on Chinese navy camouflage. Black is used to fill in some space to maintain color balance.
  • Sword is actually a Chinese naval sword awarded to officers and captains. You can google 深蓝之剑 to get an idea of what it looks like.
  • Rigging design is a lot more sci-fi looking than equivalent Pacific shipgirls because Sima wanted to emphasize that this is a modern shipgirl. It’s also less minimalist than many of the Pacific girl designs for a similar reason.
  • Shows quite a bit of skin because, well, modern ships have no armor. May or not be an excuse because we like pretty ladies.
  • She’s a catgirl because in Chinese, naval vessels are read off using their unique set of nomenclature. The 0 in Chinese (as I learned it is pronounced Ling), but Sima says that it’s pronounced Dong (literally hole) in naval nomenclature. 05 is pronounced Dong Wu – literally a pun on “animal” or “critter. Thus, Sima decided that it’d be cute to draw her as a catgirl.
  • Additionally, the catgirl design is based on a Chinese lynx because he thought that as the leading shipgirl of her class, she should be mature and big-sisterly. However, the typical Chinese big cat, tiger, has very strong thematic connotations, and he wanted to pick something slightly friendlier.

Now, her personality’s still up in the air. Following the theme we have for Pacific, Sima says he’s going to try to write her as soon as they figure out which Chinese city she’s going to be named after. China has regional stereotypes much like us, so if she’s named after a northern city she might rightfully be expected to be more boisterous, whereas if she’s going to be named Nanking then she’s going to be a cunning and sly but cute “southern” girl.

Now, I can already hear the feedback now.

Remember this is a spinoff.

and let me just pre-emptively answer a few questions.

“WHY CHYNA”

Because China is a major modern naval power? Leaving China out of a spin-off in the Pacific universe involving modern shipgirls is like leaving out the Royal Navy in Pacific proper.

“IS THIS CANON”

Since when is anything we put on the site not canon?

“WILL YOU MAKE _____(SHIP THAT I SERVED ON) A SHIPGIRL”

Maybe. Give us time to work and thank you for your suggestion. I’m always happy to hear about your stories.

“CAN SHE BE MY WAIFU?”

Ask Sima.

“CAN CATGIRL SHIPGIRLS REPRODUCE?”

(Yo, not actually picking on you – yes, you. You know who you are, but this question I get at a depressingly common frequency so I might as well speak more clearly.)

*sigh*

See youtube clip below for your answer.