Silent Service: Tambor

Tautog!

Yes?

Whatcha doing?

I’m working on a site update what does it look like I’m doing?

More London Naval Treaty stuff?

Yeah. I want to finish it. Kinda wish Trout was around. She’s much better at picking out this stuff from old newspapers and moldy-looking magazines. I really want to give our readers a feel for how the people felt about this. Back in those days this treaty thing was big drama. Kind of like how our political events make headlines sometimes.

Ugh.  I haven’t gotten a sub corner out in five days. Feeling kinda antsy, to be honest. “It’s just a hobby Tautog” “No need to be so stressed out Tautog” “Why don’t you take a day off Tautog” WELL. I feel bad, OKAY? If I get behind on work it means more work for everyone and if there’s more work for everyone it means less time for fun stuff for everyone which means less happiness for everyone which means –

Alright Tautau. That settles it.

Um?

You, take it easy. Go have a beer with Scul and Sal or something or go join up with the DD girls now that they’ve finally got that softball field up and running. I’ll take care of everything tonight. 

Tambor, before you popped into the Sub Corners some of the other girls weren’t even sure you could read… Are you really sure?

Pffft. I was born to lead, not to read. Look. We’ll write about scantily-clad shipgirls tonight, alright? It’ll be great. 

Relax. I got this. 

Uh, Tambor, that’s not the right button. You’re creating a splash page rather than –

INSTRUCTIONS ARE FOR THE WEAK. A REAL SHIPGIRL PRESSES BUTTONS WITH BRAVERY!

…Can I at least stay around and help?

BRAVE! PRESS!

I mean, if you don’t mind, spending some time together sounds nice. We’ve been outside of each other’s schedules so often I barely see you or Trout or Thresher anymore…

Hah? Oh. Yeah. ‘Course. Actually Tautog HELP where’s the thing to change back font size…

sigh Here. Lemme –

DOES THIS THING SHOW UP ON SCREEN WHEN I TYPE IT? WHAT’S HTML CODE. WHERE IS EVERYTHING.

Oy! Tambor! Don’t click that –

BUTTONS ARE EVERYWHERE!


Hey.

AHH! MIKE! AREN’T YOU SUPPOSED TO BE DOING STUFF!

Uh… Jer asked me to check up on the update since the STEC servers had a strange outage. Trout told me to check on you. She said I might be able to find you hiding under your bed.

Did I do bad Mike?

Bad in what sense?

MIKE AM I DERP?      

…Kinda?

D:

Well, your heart’s in the right place. I don’t think what you did was wrong. I understand all you wanted to do was to help Tautog.

Now, almost bricking the entirety of the STEC databases… I have no idea how you managed to do that, but in a way I guess that’s impressive? It’ll definitely give the cyber-security folks quite a bit of stuff to work with.

SO TAMBOR DIDN’T DERP. 

Not particularly. Just, try not to mess with the databases again. This is going to be one hell of a story to explain to Jer…

IS TAUTAU MAD?

No. She found the whole thing funny. Don’t worry about it.

Still feeling down?

I mean, I’m here for you if you wanna talk.

Burgers or pizza…

…W-what?

MIKE. I’M HUNGRY AGAIN. CAN’T DECIDE IF I WANT BURGERS OR PIZZA. WHAT DO?

Well, wasn’t dinner an hour ago? I’m sure if you go now you can get both.

YEAH I KNOW. I ATE. I’M STILL HUNGRY. ACTUALLY, CAN I GO GET FOODINGS?

Sure. I could use a bite myself. Haven’t had anything since breakfast.

YAY! COME WITH :D!


While I’m waiting for food. Could you tell us a little about your historical counterpart? 

Wait, we cover history in these shipgirl profiles?

Yes.

REALLY. SINCE WHEN.

Since Tautog started Silent Service. Also, as a reminder, Tambor, you’re supposed to be in-universe for this portion. 

RIGHT. UH… Crap. Can we start over?

Actually I think this is kinda cute. Let’s just keep on going. I mean, I’m not going to criticize since everyone breaks the 4th wall. 

Okay.


So, Tambor, given that we’ve already had Trout and Tautog comment on the Tambor class submarines, could you tell me a little about your historical counterpart?

Sure thing!

So, first things first. The Tambor class was as a whole a very good submarine class. Averaged thirteen confirmed kills per boat. THE BEST out of the entire submarine force. You simply can’t find another class of submarine that did this well. So like I said. Very good.

How they came about is a story that I think Trout’s gonna tell. I just noticed that she actually left her introduction’s historical section empty for this reason. She gets the design and the historical context stuff better than me anyways, so I’m gonna go on.

Tautog’s pretty modest in describing the actions of the Tambor class. “Went out with the crew and did her thing,” hah. What she’s not telling you is that the submarine force was literally the ONLY thing holding the line during the clusterfraggery that’s after the Pearl Harbor attack. Six of the Tambors were around in Hawaii during the start of the war, and those subs saw some of the hardest fighting throughout the war. Out of the original six, two didn’t make it back home. Then out of the entire class… seven. Seven out of twelve were lost in total.

No guts, no glory.

I can tell you that by the end of the war, the Tambor class submariners were the absolute finest we’ve got on the fleet. Hardened veterans all, and the track record shows. But, in this business, you can’t expect to get out unscathed. Take my namesake. She was a lucky one, that’s for sure. Started out the war with one engine immediately busted. Limped back home for repairs. Had a commander who just wasn’t doing what he was supposed to be doing – no bravery in that one, couldn’t close with the enemy, and couldn’t do his job well.

Yeah. The Tambor could have scored a kill on at least a heavy cruiser at Midway. It just didn’t happen because of our own errors. Sure, it’s not as bad as Batfish missing Yamato, but still, at that stage in the war? The men were mad as hell. You’ve got the flyboys up there in the skies tearing the enemy fleet up and what are we doing? Dealing with messy torpedoes, bad tactics, and commander-personality-issues.

But you wanna know something else? Like the rest of the submarine force, the Tambor learned. She learned very well. The tale of the Tambor herself is an example of that. She went from missing all of her marks at Midway to scoring one, two, three, sometimes four kills on her war patrols. She went from timidly dodging every shadow and hiding from every sound to courageously picking fights on the surface, sometimes in broad daylight.

Exemplary submarine. Oh yeah. She volunteered herself for the toughest tasks, gave her hardest, took her chances, made her mistakes. The best part? She was good enough and lucky enough to learn from those and get better.

Like I said. Exemplary submarine. Yeah!


How do you feel about the coming Abyssal War?

As a whole? I think we’re doing good. After all, there’s nothing much else we could do, right? it’s not like you can just magic-up oh, I dunno, a few hundred extra shipgirls to help us fight the damn things.

Or that you can just magic-up MORE munitions. You can never go wrong with having more ammo.

Personally? Ugh. Let’s just say I’m really not looking forward to physical combat. Yeah. I know we’ve got our tactics, but the stuff the girls over in intel and history’s dredged up… Makes me kinda nervous.

See, supposedly the damned things deploy counters accordingly, right? With our focus on stealth, long-range firepower, and maximizing our range advantages, it’d only make sense for the Abyssals to try to close the gap and start fighting us up, close, and personal.

…This is totally silly, but like, you see this I’m wearing? Yeah. You can fit the entirety of this bikini in the palm of your hand. Hand. Singular. Now I know I’ve got a magic forcefield covering my ass, and I know you can’t do ANYTHING at all about what the fairies come up with in terms of our combat “uniforms” or “outfits” or whatever the latest circulation calls ’em these days.

But how come the Sargo twins get those nice-looking one-pieces while the six of us get LITERALLY the minimal coverage for public decency?

Now that you mention it, yeah…

Yeah, “yeah” me all you want. We know you’re watching us, Mike. The attention here safe at home I don’t mind. Period. You know what they say, right? If you’ve got the goods, better show’em off.

I’m talking about combat. Hello, wardrobe malfunction? We aren’t robots you know! I’d get embarrassed! Plus, you know all of our actions are recorded. I get it! Accidents happen. I just want to lessen the chances of that happening. Get me?

Oh. I see. Just wearing something else out to sea won’t solve the issue.

Yeah. It’ll get blown right off. By the way I’m not asking for like, Mary-Weavy type outfit or anything. I just want something a little more modest along the line of Narwhal and Nautilus’ bikini. Or Wahoo’s. Hers is fine too. Get my point?

Tambor, your definition of modest is uh …

Actually, y’know what. Since we’re on the subject and all. If you ever get a chance to figure out this thing, just tell them I want the same bottom as Narwhal. Make it a V-string instead, though. Those are cute!

Uh…

Yes?

Ok.

Yay! Thanks.

I mean, I don’t get the technical details behind your clothing technology. I just know that we can slowly and steadily improve the “strength” of the shielding independent of the physical appearance of the clothing. In fact, given that it’s quite literally refining a nimbus of fairy energy, it’d save a lot of time and effort if we didn’t have to focus it into a clothing-based form –

LEWD. My Gosh Mike we’ve gone over this before we AREN’T fighting naked! Only Europeans do that!

T-that’s not what I was getting at. I was just pointing out the technical –

LEEWWWWWWDDDDDDDDD.

sigh Alright, Tambor. I’ll see what I can do. I already met with the girls in charge of the Materials Research and Assembly Facility yesterday but I suppose I can get Missouri to leave a note to Oversight. 

Can you just call a meeting again?

Tambor. People hate meetings.

I don’t!

Yeah. That’s because you don’t usually go to them. 

Of course I don’t. I don’t need to sit for an hour and a half to get two lines of new instructions! Besides, for the details? I’ve got Triton and Trout for that.

Also, Mike, I think I ate your food. Sorry.

It’s fine. See, I ordered a second one just in case. Looks like Langley’s bringing it out right now…


[Mail Call] 2017/10/19 – Morgane’s Fireside Chat #7

Got home super late. This should be titled “on reader responses.”

Sune was super excited and pinged me a pretty long write-up of one of our long time reader’s conjecture on what he’s observed so far. I took a look and I concur.

“whoever created the shipgirls”. Oh…. I do remember hints that there was some vague “god” being involved but I also remember not entirely taking those hints seriously. Looking back on it it does make sense.

If there was some intelligence behind their creation it would neatly answer many questions about why shipgirls appear in the way that they do. Why are they based on ships? because the intelligence wants it to be that way. Why are they mostly from WWII? Also because the intelligence wants it to be that way. Why are there papershipgirls? Perhaps the intelligence simply asked why not? The questions then start centering around why exactly the intelligence would choose to make these decisions and what is the nature of the intelligence.

You have actually stumbled upon a rather interesting philosophical, sometimes borderline religious query. Why does “God” do what he does? While it frequently takes form in the question of “why does God permit suffering,” you can generally apply the same reasoning and rationale here as well.

From an in-universe perspective, I’d have left it at that. From an out-of-universe perspective, as the creator of the intelligence, my answer is: watch and see. Just do remember that as author I do have creative intent behind pretty much everything we do. It wouldn’t be Pacific otherwise.

I’ll make a guess. The Abyssals are “technological” in nature, or at least they appear so to me. There’s absolutely no indication that they’re any kind of mystical beings like they are in so many other KC fanworks, hellbent on “revenge” or whatnot.

The Abyssals serve several thematic purposes as the antagonist or villain of Pacific. Let’s work with that observation you’ve made. They are largely technological and mechanic in nature. Why is that? What makes a machine particularly terrifying or particularly “hostile” towards humanity?

Simple. Any living being, no matter how different from you and I, will at a base minimum be limited by some actual biological parameters. Note. Living is NOT the same as intelligent, or sentient.

As a casual example; in order to be alive, you need to be able to die. You need to be able to be born. You’re going to need to have some semblance of identity, to know who you are, or have a sense for what you are.

The very intelligent reader will immediately ask: but these definitions don’t match up to everything perfectly. A brain-dead individual, for instance, have no sense of identity. Are you saying that said person is inhuman?

No. That’s not the argument that I’m making. Your role as reader is to make those connections and interpretations to you. My role as writer, creator, is to create something that could conceivably fit all of these roles and communicate that in some fashion.

So let’s step back for a moment. Imagine you’re one of these Abyssal “creatures.” I say creature because that’s really putting it kindly. What is your experience even going to be like? I can’t describe it. I lack the intelligence to be able to operate autonomously. Their behavior appears to be mostly instinctual or animal-like (terms that I repeatedly use) but at the same time, I describe them as being far more intelligent than capable than you’d think.

This appears to be a logical contradiction at first. It isn’t. The key term once again comes from perception. STEC perceives the Abyssals as intelligent because they perform actions that are associated with intelligence. Creating ambushes. Adjusting their reactions. Things that you wouldn’t expect a dumb drone to do.

Well, what if the controller is smart? What if the controller is really the one pulling those moves? But that doesn’t matter nearly as much if you think about it. Your “life” as a semi-autonomous extension of the Abyssal Fleet means you might have been given just enough “tools” to react to certain stimuli. You might experience pain so you can cease certain behaviors or avoid certain things. However, your ability to react to said stimuli does not mean you understand what those stimuli are. It does not mean you have control over those actions.

You simply are. You exist. And your body is not your own. You are just perceptive enough to understand that something is “being done” or is in the state of doing. You have no idea what it is.

Your ability to receive and process information? Only the materials that are relevant. I doubt you know what color is. I certainly don’t think you understand just what “taste” is – after all, you may be able to distinguish different molecules through some organ-equivalent of yours, but you have no concept of smell. You can’t express the fact that you’ve smelled delicious appie pie, the scent of perfumes, or shipgirls, or blood or whatever. Those things have no meaning to you.

What’s worse, you are incapable of obtaining meaning. That’s how you were created. A thing with just enough functionality to carry out a task. A task that you don’t understand.

In edgier works, you know, I would add some line about how you hate. You hate humanity, then, for what it is. “They hate us for our way of life.” How quaint. Because you can’t even use hate to quantify that term. Hate is a concept. It requires the identification of a target, an emotion of extreme envy or dislike, and a comparative understanding of the relative states of being in which you and the thing or target you hate are.

You lack the ability to hate, because you literally lack all three of those components. In essence you “survive” in a state of perpetual limbo where your perception of reality flashes in and out of existence. You can’t die, because the Fleet might simply bring you in again. With no ability to retain memories your existence is essentially boiled down to a never-ending state of death and rebirth, only that there is no release because every SECOND brings in a new discomfort because you would be experiencing the utterly alien things (to you) all over again.

Again.

Again.

and Again.

Forever.

Rather they seem interested in fairly mundane things like resources. They’re PHYSCIAL entities, more like Sci-Fi aliens than Fantasy spirits or whatever. If that assumption is correct then maybe the shipgirls are the same way

Well, sure. This isn’t a bad guess.

IIRC shipgirls have fought many seperate wars with Abyssals across many different worlds and Alt-Timelines. Perhaps they originate from one of these worlds that was home to a particularely advanced version of mankind, who were responsible for creating the shipgirls as a means to fight off Abyssals. Taking the “best of humanity” as models for the individuals meant to defend it against an opponent that utterly lacks even the slightest trace of what makes us human

The last statement is absolutely spot-on correct. That’s what shipgirls are. They fight against the Abyssal fleet.

Everything else, well, I have a question.

You say advanced humanity. How advanced do you think humanity has to be to create something like a shipgirl – an exemplary being, in short, that can basically last against an opponent like the Abyssals?

If you’ve gotten to a point where you’ve basically mastered energy and matter manipulation (that’s PRETTY MUCH what fairies can do) are you still even human?

And how the hell did you lose in the first place?

If you lost, what hope does this have for the humans of Pacific’s world? You know, ordinary folks like you and I?

Think about it. Think very deep. Then you’ll realize why I, in particular, love creating Pacific.

Because I know this story. I know its beginning. I know its middle. I know the paths in which my girls will take as they live within these very words and very pages.

I also know how it ends.

And as they traveled from world to world, they sometimes created new shipgirls, based on designs that weren’t built in their original world. Giving birth to our Zaos and Lousiannas.

Maybe. However, that would imply that the concept of the Zao or the Louisiana is somehow universally connected…

Maybe when they were first created, shipgirls weren’t really shipgirls. As in, they were just “blank” weapons with little personality and not much to distinguish themselves from each other as individuals.

I’ve actually seen this in other fanworks. It’s a very commonly used trope – the carte blanche.

At this point they’d lack even the references to their “ship selves” since the original civilization that created them did not really have a WWII equivalent or they considered it unimportant. But as their weapons hopped from world to world and evolved through countless wars with the Abyssals, some of that humanity rubbed off on them and they developed an affinity for WWII warships as they found the stories and ideas behind those warships to be inspiring to them and their budding humanity.

There are two discrete observations within this paragraph that is correct.

gah, alright I’m probably very wrong

Some of these are excellent ideas. You’re clearly thinking. Good. It’s the kind of responses I like to see.

But the fact that there is an intelligence behind the shipgirls is interesting in and of itself. You wonder why it would bother with trying to defend mankind.

Why not?

If I was an STEC researcher I’d probably want to draft a long list of questions for the shipgirls and try to see how far their memories can take them.

Someone get a note to Andrea and hire this man (?).

Or if they feel any “inclination” to behave a certain way.

No different than any other human. You can’t get Sculpin to be un-lazy or Pennsy to be un-angry. It’s just kinda who they are.

Like if they have any “built in” objectives. Or even more basic questions like why they even want to defend mankind in the first place.

No different than any other human. The answer to this varies quite a bit. Some like New Jersey takes the whole defender of humanity thing probably very seriously. Others are just acting on their human inclinations. Some fight for friends and family. Some fight for ideals and values. Some fight because it’s fun (that’s the answer given on the survey so take it as seriously or as unseriously as you will).

Their answers could be a clue as to what exactly this entity wants and why it wants these things.

Yes.

Unless it’s some super-meta thing where Morgane herself is literally a character in Pacific. And is basically god. (Though that’s probably unlikely….)

I’m not very meta. My creative techniques are very antiquated and old-fashioned.

So yeah, thinking again on “why warships” as opposed to other human things. Abyssals have no ideals, no “loved ones”, no human or humanlike attachments (that we can see at least). An abyssal unit is built to conquer and destroy and nothing else. But a Warship, while also built with these things in mind, is also built to defend nations, peoples, and ideals. There’re very human emotions that go into the creations of these Warships. Hopes and dreams by their builders, sailors, and even the politicans that comissioned them. So while in some ways they are superficially similar to the Abyssal’s own combatants, they are also fundamentally different as many of the things that went behind their creation are things that the Abyssals completely lack and cannot understand.

Grade A analysis. Very good.

hey’re also some of the most powerful combat units humans have ever constructed. So, if you’re willing to stretch things just a wee a bit and look at it from a certain point of view, a warship could be summed up as a compact symbol of Mankind’s technical and martial might as well as a symbol of our humanity and how it motivates us to do great things. A good counter, both in physical terms and in “theme”, for the inhuman Abyssals.

You might have stolen that straight out of my notes. Haha.

Yes. Absolutely. More so than the airplane or the tank, a warship is a microcosm of human civilization. There’s an old saying that you can build an army in a year, an airforce in ten, but a navy in a hundred. They aren’t exactly wrong. To maintain a ship takes more than just money and industrial power. It also require purpose.

Furthermore, humanity has a unique relationship with the ocean. Life, it is said, originated from the oceans themselves. The sea is the first non-native habitat in which we begin our journey as humanity. It is both hostile and friendly, full of dangers but also bounty (after all, you couldn’t live off the air or the atmosphere alone, could you? The sea on the other hand you could). It occupies a unique position in humanity’s history. I challenge you to find me one great civilization like Greece or Rome or China or Egypt that had nothing to do with the oceans.

The ocean allowed for the first rapid exchange of goods and ideas. It also allowed for some of the most catastrophic events in human history. It facilitated the rise of the Hellenic city-states and in the very same breath was likely the source of their ruin a few hundred years prior during the Bronze Age collapse. It doesn’t discriminate – both liberators and slavers traveled on its waves. It simply is.

I don’t know why the other shipgirl games, creative works, or whatever else is doing warships. But I think I definitely know mine. After seeing all that, are we on the same page? 🙂