Silent Service: Early War Reconnaissance

Why even give publicity to trolls and armchair generals? That should have gone into the recycle bin, not a website article.
It’s just encouraging retards to email in the dumb shit. Stop trying to justify Pacific’s universe, and instead tell those goons to fuck off and create their own fanwork which conforms to their ideas.

I totally agree! See, questions like these are much better.

In one of Tautog’s silent corners you mentioned that U.S. Submarines were frequently used for scouting purposes as an actual part of their mission. How did this work? How would a submarine even take this kind of information in the first place?

I’m glad you asked. Let me refer you to a manual I have on hand. While the U.S. Navy was still figuring things out in 1942, you can get an idea of how reconnaissance worked by looking at a manual called “Current Submarine Doctrine.”

(Yeah, creative, I know. This is the Navy, after all!)

According to that manual, which was distributed to all submarine commanders…

Submarines are capable of performing three types of reconnaissance missions.

a). Visual reconnaissance through periscope,

b). Photographic reconnaissance through periscope,

c). Reconnaissance by landing party.

I think this list is pretty self-explanatory, but to elaborate slightly…

At the time, many Japanese fortifications were completely unknown. Some of our intelligence on say, the Carolines or the Marianas have been outdated for at least twenty or so years. So, naturally, it was the submarine’s job to figure out what they had. Shore guns. Harbor defenses. Military installations. Beachheads for amphibious attacks. That sort of thing.

(I also think this answers both of your questions. Submarines literally took pictures, or put guys on shore to take pictures. The commander then wrote down any additional notes that he might have thought would be important, and then ran away to safety.)

Now, you might be thinking. Why not just use air recon? Well, aerial reconnaissance has two problems. First, when you fly a plane over, the enemy know you’re scouting them. Secondly, an airplane is only in the area for limited amounts of time, and you can’t really check the accuracy or the orientation of your charts.

The submarine might be slower, but it can do both.

Now, about the cameras used? Those were jury-rigged. Navy has it on record that the Pompano was the first to run one of these reconnaissance missions, and it just so happens that Cmdr. Parks was an expert photographer. After figuring out just how to find a proper focal point, he managed to rig up a small camera on the scope. Two other boats – the Dolphin and the Tautog – followed.

In those super early days, everyone was still learning. The Pompano herself almost got sunk by none other than the U.S. Navy. While she was swimming along, a PBY patrol bomber saw her, thought she was Japanese, and came over to bomb her at 7 AM in the morning. The Pompano’s crew was rightfully confused, and noted in their report that this must have been from a different squadron than the Oahu-based ones since those weren’t scheduled to take off in this sector until much later.

Then this gem happened.

What happened was that the PBY pilots freaked out and called in help. Hours later, three SBDs flew over from the Enterprise and bombed her again. Lucky for the Pompano (and unlucky for the Enterprise pilots, or maybeI should say, lucky for them, too) she only suffered some mild damage in the form of a leaky tank.

Anyways, despite this, Pompano successfully completed her mission. Now, bear in mind that the quality of the photos might not be very high – they looked probably closer to something like below.

Nonetheless, it was good enough to get the important stuff, and submarines will continue to provide a lot of useful intelligence down the road. Years later, submarine reconnaissance would prove to be vital in places such as Tarawa, where the Nautilus would take pictures that would result in correcting a gigantic compass error from the British charts that we were using at the time.

As for the landing party stuff? I think you’ll wanna hear about some of the actual missions. They’re pretty thrilling. So I’m going to hold off here for now! Thanks for dropping by.

[Mail Call] 2017/07/24 – Ideology

Settle down, guys. This one’s going to be a heavy read. Also I have a sore throat, and I feel sick, and I PROBABLY shouldn’t be writing at like 4 in the morning but I can’t sleep.

Reminds me of last year when we first showed Lori – people were put off by a “Nazi submarine” despite the fact that she did like, nothing under the Nazis. I saved a bunch of questions of this type for a rainy day because folks have been asking me just what exactly is the implication for having von Braun pop up as a fairy.

… It’s exactly what it is. I want people to read up and look up von Braun and reach their own conclusions, and of course I’ll be commenting myself about how I feel about his contributions during the war. Wait for the actual art piece to show up, and then we’ll talk more about this.

For the record? Something’s off with von Braun. His appearance lends great credence to one faction of STEC fairy researchers (the fairies are impressions or shadows of historical figures camp), which points out that this fairy is literally incapable of doing anything else other than craft plans that can then be fed into the fairy machines. He appears to be incapable of comprehending anything outside of that, and retains neither von Braun’s womanizing tendencies nor anything of a personality.

In fact, STEC’s not sure if he’s an “ace fairy” or just a slightly more powerful/evolved engineering fairy. Certainly he is nowhere as animated as some of the other named figures.


Pacific’s out to make a realistic world. This necessitates a diversity of opinions and viewpoints. On one hand it means that the USSR is alive and well and provides an ideological counterpoint to the West. On the other hand, it very much means that less righteous ideologies are alive. Nazism, for example, is alive and well and growing in West Germany. Decades of being in functional occupation’ll do that.

Having actual Nazi shipgirls – as in, if we are to consider the full extent of which Pacific “builds” each shipgirl – is only going to add fuel to the fire. There’s a reason why German shipgirls aren’t exactly in the foreground.

For the record, they range from the ideologically deviant (such as Lori who turned her back on that ideology) to the, well, ideologically coherent (Pacific’s Bismarck is probably a good example of this). I’m not in the business to do apologetics for the other side, so there’s little reason for me to bring them into the plot unless I have a reason to do so.

(This is surprisingly similar to Japan, which in-lore is actually splintered. It’s an apt analogy of Japanese politics and ideologies today.)

It’s not like they’re easy to write, either. You know I don’t do anything half-assed and I don’t straw-man. The struggle here is literally how to create a realistic “German” shipgirl given the themes of Pacific without veering into full-on “WAR OF POLISH AGGRESSION” territory, since that WOULD be a valid perspective coming from well, Germany.

In other words, I think it is absolutely dangerous to try to write German shipgirls or Japanese shipgirls and pretend that they’re all apologetic about what had happened. They’re not. Some are. Many aren’t. To suggest that they do would be willingly ignoring real life and real history, and you really do miss an opportunity to educate and show our perspective. In fact, there’s a reason why this is still an issue today in East Asia – just last month Shinzo Abe declared that Japan didn’t invade anything and corrected a reporter twice regarding Japan’s role in WW2.

That’s the prime minister of Japan, in case you haven’t figure it out. In 2017.

“So then why bother? Why have wrongthink?”

Because the American thing to do here is to give my readers freedom. I set out to create a realistic, diverse world. I am not going to clamp down on my reader’s freedom of choice. What I am going to do, however, is to show you why our way of life – our values – are better.

Why we’re more right, so to speak.

Because, as an American, as arrogant as this is, that is our national character. Once you truly understand the sort of things we stand for, you can’t turn your back on it. You know how in Christianity there is a common line of thinking that “once saved, you’re always saved?”

I think “American values,” if you want me to comment on an abstract fashion, is something like it. Once you understand what it means to be free, for instance, you don’t want to take that away from anyone, and you’ll fight like hell to keep things that way.

This is what makes the American shipgirls in Pacific American. In fact, I would argue that this is what makes Pacific Pacific. As this is an American-centric work written by a bunch of Americans and drawn by people who are fans of America, it only makes sense that at its core, America is coherent and consistent. Pennsy and Sanny can fight over politics all they want, but at the end of the day? They’re both going to be red, white, and blue.

This should be no surprise to anyone. Every writer, creator, whatever you want to call it, will have their own viewpoints that they want to superimpose onto their readers. It is absolutely impossible to have a piece of writing that conveys no inherent meaning. You’re either trying to convince someone of something or you’re trying to convince someone that they’re wrong about something. Even a simple statement like “the sky is blue” is affirming an observation about the nature or the color of the sky.

 

[Historical Inspirations] Historical characters in Pacific

Who’s your favorite USN or WW2 person Morgane? You seem to like submarines a lot, so am I right in guessing Nimitz? Will they show up in Pacific?

Close. I hold a lot of admiration for a lot of our historical figures, and I tend to be more sympathetic than not for those that (I feel) got the short end of the stick – Jack Fletcher is a pretty good example. I also tend to defend (more so due to personal opinion, familial experiences (hard to hate your great uncle’s boss, for instance) or other impressions) individuals that may be controversial such as Mush Morton or Ted Sherman.

The latter I’ll answer first. Historical figures show up as either important background characters (E.G. Dwight Eisenhower, the KOG, and so on) or as “historical characters” in the form of ace fairies. The latter out of this group is infinitely easier for me to write, as according to Pacific lore, they are “locked” in time. That is to say, they possess only the knowledge and the “characteristics” up to that point, and the character is effectively frozen in time. So writing a Fuchida is easy because we know how he was during WW2. Writing the aging Fuchida as he appears, not as a fairy but himself in Pacific, is a bit more difficult.

As for the former group, in terms of background characters, you’ll notice that I tend to currently settle with descriptive elements only. After all, the only way to write them well is to read a lot of autobiographies, and you’ll be surprised to find that not two autobiographies are alike. Eisenhower is a prime example of this. I’ve gone through three separate autobiographies of him and combed his presidential library for personality tidbits before finally creating an “impression” of him as a character that I’d like to use. Each of those literally paint a different picture of the president, and I had to do a lot of thinking to synthesize all of those into one thing.

If I was to speak simply, Eisenhower’s a gentle giant. People trusted him. That was perhaps the more important out of all of his traits, and he took that trust seriously. He’s from a rural background, and reading up his experiences – both how he was raised and his experiences at West Point – convinced me that his folky farm-boy persona is both an act that he cultivates and something that is, well, him.

That being said, Eisenhower had an impeccable eye for policy. He is generally considered to be fairly good as a commanding officer in WW2. In real life he ended the Korean War after five months in his presidency and did not get us into another war. Nobody would know how many American and other lives he would have ultimately saved, but that part was particularly irrelevant when you consider that he was a man who stubbornly refused Congress, his advisors, and the Pentagon’s requests of a pre-emptive nuclear strike on countries such as China.

As such, a lot of the groundworks for how STEC grew in Pacific’s universe appeared because he made sense to me. This was after spending quite a bit of effort in trying to see what subtle tweaks can I make to his presidency to get America in Pacific to where I want – let’s just say that even now in 2017 I am ambivalent about the exact order of the presidents that would appear. This isn’t even about Clinton or Bush or Obama or Trump, but let’s just say that I’ve looked deeply into the timeline of Pacific, and I can totally see an America with no Kennedy or Reagan work.

But if you have to have me pick one historical figure to write that pertains to the USN it might come as a surprise to you.

Due to a series of fortunate incidents, I am happy to say that I’ve read more about this man than a twenty-something should. Read Maury’s profile and you’ll quickly see the connection. To me, Arleigh Burke is basically the ur-example of a brilliant USN Navy Admiral. His actions in both peace and war, from childhood to CNO, exemplifies what the Navy is about.

This is a man who not only innovated our destroyer tactics in WW2, but he helped shape the modern day US Navy, with his focus on carrier aviation, nuclear propulsion, and the Polaris missile. He served for six years as CNO – the longest of anyone to hold that office. But he was far more than just a hotshot DD commander, a capable CNO, or a living legend.

As a person? Burke is integrity personified. His work ethic is legendary, as is his drive and professionalism. He’s got a singleminded devotion to a few things in life – his country, the navy, his wife and little else. He spoke his mind and respected and expected others to do the same. Burke’s language can be surprisingly colorful at times.

It’s no wonder to anyone that he would leave but one word as his epitaph: Sailor.

 

We’re talking about a man who Secretary Tom Gates ordered to take time off because he was afraid that he would break down due to overwork. Sent to a luxury hotel resort in Virginia, Burke lasted a grand total of two days before fleeing back to Washington. He was just uncomfortable in that environment – after all, you’re talking about an admiral who didn’t golf or gamble (the only sport he was known to enjoy is Navy football which he follows religiously), and who sometimes work so hard that he forgets his own dinner parties.

And accomplished he was. By the end of his second term as CNO, he had not only shaped American policy, but he had ensured America’s future investments. USS Long Beach was nearly finished. The Enterprise – the first nuclear carrier – was almost done as well. His Naval Leadership Program is starting to generate immense amounts of talent. He kept the Navy independent, dampened the massive-retaliation strategy, and gotten a lot of younger officers into places where they could do their jobs.

Then there’s Polaris. You didn’t know that Burke was the one who launched the program, got the money for it, promoted it, and ultimately guided it, right?

But did you know what happened to him?

Burke, I don’t want the United States involved in this.

Kennedy’s angry response to Burke’s suggestions of naval during the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Burke himself was opposed to the invasion plans, and he was briefed at the barest of minimums in which – according to his memoirs – that he did not know even how to offer constructive criticism, so little did he know of the organization.

And so, when the debacle unfolded, Burke offered several ways to turn the battle around. He had units ready – he was opposed to it, but he was determined to salvage a bad situation. Kennedy flippantly blocked him at every turn, concerned as he was about the appearance of things. Burke, ever the consummate professional, only had this to say in response.

Hell, Mr. President, but we ARE involved!

When I read about Burke’s anger, something touched me deeply. Here was a man who will serve the nation faithfully for forty-two years, having survived World War II, the Korean War, and watched the Cold War begin.

He achieved greatness and became an actual living legend, he did so much for his country, and yet his last two years as CNO were spent trying to save the navy he loved so much from meddling bureaucrats and politicians. The air force, which first tried to block the development of Polaris, now wanted to take it over. He and a handful of farsighted individuals tried to warn the US of the extraordinary implications behind the “military reforms” (which, I will remind you, resulted in Vietnam…) but their warnings fell on largely deaf ears.

My impression, from reading the correspondences and the historical sources and hearing about the admiral from those who knew him, was that his last two years in office were distressing. The Bay of Pigs incident deeply affected him. He was tired. He was discouraged. He refused re-appointments and lucrative appointments to other offices and finally retired. In short, it was a tragic and somewhat unfulfilling end to the career of one of the most brilliant naval officers of US history.

You know how I started off on Pacific wanting to do something to “save” America – as I stated in that 2016 piece where I laid out my personal politics? That I wanted to make a stand against historical revisionism and what I saw as the slow degradation of our country?

There are a few individuals in history whose ends I felt were simply not fair. It’s a little like how they scrapped CV-6. It’s just …

It hurts.

I want to see if I can do something to mend that.

There are a handful of key historical figures involved in the Special Task and Evaluation Command, and Arleigh Burke is one of them.

Let’s just say I’m working on how he is portrayed and leave it at that.

[Mail Call] 2017/07/22 – Abyssal “powerlevels”

I have a critique of sorts about the all-powerful Abyssals in your work. Specifically, I think it’s really dumb. This isn’t just criticism leveled at you but at the genre as a whole. Oftentimes a work will have a thing so powerful that only some other plot thing can beat it.

See, this is stupid. People write this sort of thing because they don’t know anything about the military or the police or anything about how wars are fought. It limits the work’s scope to a handful characters and it’s really a cheap way for the authors to not pay attention details in war.

 

So, speaking of KanColle as a whole, the lore ranges very widely from work to work. I’ve made this analogy before. Some light novels are like “real robots” where shipgirls are literally just ordinary girls picking up equipment. Others are all about the mysticism (purification is a common theme) where shipgirls are “super” beings.

Pacific straddles the two and really doesn’t fall squarely under either situation. For one thing, I’m pretty confident that my world building is as “hard” as they come. The Abyssals and shipgirls both possess highly advanced technology or powers that can be viewed as magic, but these technology and powers are entirely systematic and predictable in nature. For example, the Abyssals can teleport troops in from another “dimension,” for instance, but space is huge, and they need to know precise coordinates in order to actually do this with any degree of accuracy.

My point being is that first of all, the Abyssals currently appear to be limitless in power, but this is largely from an in-universe perspective. STEC’s reactions to new Abyssal capabilities aren’t very different from say, your random infantryman in WW1 first seeing a tank, or your random warrior in ancient times first seeing a chariot.

Pacific’s always been open about how capable the Abyssals are, and the question of can X weapon hurt an Abyssal come up often. The truth of the matter here is that the Abyssals follow simple laws of physics. Heat an Abyssal up high enough and it will burn. Apply a force large enough and its armor will crack.

However, therein lies the issue. As I’ve mentioned, the Abyssals are tailored to fight and beat humanity. They possess in their arsenal multiple tools designed to defeat human weapons, ranging from an EMP-like weapon that throws off electronic targeting (plausible even in real life today), the ability to regenerate extremely rapidly (plausible given what we know of biology, but remember this “eats” away at the Abyssal’s own reserves in materials), extremely tough hides and armor (plausible, again – just too expensive to produce in large quantities), the ability to psychologically interfere with human attackers (plausible – just not in this form. Think to ancient warriors making battlecries for instance to throw off their opponents. Abyssal “terror aura” is functionally similar), and of course, their defensive “shielding” (explained in universe).

Out of these five things the only thing that’s more science fiction than future fiction are the latter two. STEC is working hard on figuring out how to disable the latter so the conventional military forces can join in the fight. There are prototypes being worked on, but Pacific really isn’t big on the “super prototype” thing. If anything, what would be useful and important would be something we can mass produce cheaply to trade effectively against the Abyssal fleet.

This is a necessary matter of survival. The ocean is a large place, and the Abyssals have gigantic numbers. Even if say, the entire USN materialized as shipgirls, you’re still looking at only a few thousand shipgirls at most. Just because the shipgirls are the most capable at fighting the Abyssals doesn’t mean that STEC and co. aren’t trying to figure out other ways to bring the fight to the enemy.

From another perspective, it’s about the story I want to tell. There’s a reason why the focus is on the shipgirl and not the ship. I enjoy telling stories about humanity. You might as well ask why the ancient epic writers focused on one or two key heroes when they know that in those days battles are won with masses of men, and not single champions. Same thing.


You know what, Mike? Here’s what I think. I think if the Abyssals could actually blanket the planet, we’d all be dead today. So I’m going to suggest something bold and foolish: that these monsters aren’t nearly as capable as our own intelligence have suggested. We’re overestimating them.

Granted, the above opinion comes from probably one of the most sanguine shipgirls we’ve ever created, but she might just have a point. From the perspective of the creator, if I were to de-construct this, I would argue that she’s largely right. I’ve already stated that the Abyssals are intelligent. It therefore stands to reason that an intelligent opponent would crush the enemy if it can.

Therefore, whether or not the Abyssals can literally swarm the planet is a bit like asking “could Hitler have made 150000 Toigas and won the war in 1943.” They can, but for some reason, they aren’t. Maybe the Abyssals are aware that whoever orders such a swarming attack is going to be vulnerable to retaliation, internally or externally. Maybe the cost-benefit isn’t worth it (this is just one damn planet, after all!)

Maybe the reason is indeed the one given by STEC in universe. The Abyssals do not attack unless they believe they are guaranteed to succeed. Until they map out the world’s oceans and know exactly what they’re facing, they aren’t sending their invading force. You wouldn’t D-Day on Normandy if you didn’t know what defenses are present and you didn’t know what the coastline is like, right?

Or maybe there’s a mysterious force out of the Pacific universe controlling their every move. 😉

So, while the Abyssals are overwhelmingly powerful, I’d say that they’re powerful for a reason. The shipgirls are what’s fighting them because that’s the story I’m writing, and it’s also the most effective way.

Plus, in all honesty, the war hasn’t started. What we’re seeing are the politics and the preparation and the build-up prior to the war. So I think you can afford to wait and see to see if I can actually create a competent conflict. x)